Monday, March 16, 2009

Muslim Creationists - not the bottom of the barrel

No - that honor belongs to the folks responsible for the Creation museum. Below is a conversation between Michael Shermer and a Creation scientist (a geneticist!??) whose research focuses on developing models "to understand the role of microbes before and after the Fall and speciation of animals after the Flood". Yes - the Fall here refers to the Christian notion of original sin - and not the very cool movie, The Fall, that came out last year (if you like creative movies - do check it out). And yes, she also believes that Earth is only 6000 years old. Harun Yahya: breath easy. This is the bottom of the barrel. Sorry to put you through this, but here is the interview:

Also, Washington Post wasted precious newspaper space to report on a creationist student trip to Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History (again - we are talking about young earth creationists!) The reporting is bizarre: instead of clearly saying that these guys are complete nuts, the article ends on a quote at the Jefferson Memorial. The last three paragraphs of the article are as follows:

Near the end of the "Evolution Trail," the class showed no signs of being swayed by the polished, enthusiastic presentation of Darwin's theory. They were surprised, though, by the bronze statue of man's earliest mammalian ancestor.

"A rat?" exclaimed Amanda Runions, a 21-year-old biochemistry major, when she saw the model of a morganucodon, a rodent-like ancient mammal that curators have dubbed Grandma Morgie. "All this hype for a rat? You're expecting, like, at least an ape."

Before heading back to Lynchburg each year, DeWitt makes a point of stopping by the Jefferson Memorial. The quotes on the wall there (his favorite: "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?") make for a better ending to the trip than the secular shades of the museum, he said.

Yikes! There does not have to be a balance in reporting - when one side is completely nuts. In any case, here is the link to the full article.


Anonymous said...

Yeesh.... that is reeeeally scary! I've referenced your website and posted the same video on my site. I've also added a video of a talk by Francis Collins, which he gave at UC Berkeley in Feb of 08. I ended up commenting on Dr. Collins' "BioLogos"... he's half-way there, I think...

Anonymous said...

Vatican has recently organized a conference on evolution theory and gathered evolutionists from all around the world. Harun Yahya's representative was also there, but he was not let speak: You may see details at

As we all know Vatican is the place of worship and leadership of the Christian world. So it is assumed that mentioning God's name, mentioning His Creation under the dome of Vatican, would be more than usual. But they did not let - even one voice of a creationist - in that conference. They did not let His name to be mentioned and His Creation to be explained.

How come? How come has the world come to the point that God's creation cannot be discussed in a religious surrounding. This is the End Times as all the scriptures in Christianity, Judaism and Islam are expecting.

You should definitely visit:

Jenn/Ev said...

Just to break the tie, Salman, here's one more note of appreciation for the link. :)

Unknown said...

and here's another note of appreciation.

Salman Hameed said...

Ok - Its 3 - 1 final result ;) Thanks.

Actually "Anonymous" (if that is his/her real name :) ) misunderstood my post. I did NOT say that Yahya WAS the bottom of the barrel. As hard it is to believe, Young Earth Creationists beat him to that. If it came out like that, I'm sorry for the confusion. Because both Yahya and Young Earth Creationists use similar logic(?) - I can totally see how one may get confused by that.

Anonymous said...

Why are people "Nuts" who believe in creation while you are labeled, what? Sane? For believing in a "theory", unprovable, since it was thrust on the "unenlightened" by the "enlightened men" of a particular century, only "these men", while other men were accidentally left in the dark? How arrogant! If we all evolved from apes why haven't the rest of the apes evolved? There is not one scientific shred of evidence for evolution and you know it. More importantly, since "evolution" became a "fact", nothing else has evolved. No specie since Darwin has "morphed" into something else. What do you say about that Mr. Know-it all??

Salman Hameed said...

If we all evolved from apes why haven't the rest of the apes evolved?
Hmmm...we actually did not evolve from apes. There you go. We have a total point of agreement.

Humans and apes had a common ancestor a few millions years ago (5-15 million years ago) - and that's where the lines diverged.

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