tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post8836261028476514745..comments2024-03-19T09:06:21.507-04:00Comments on Irtiqa: BBC debate and more pics from the Darwin conference in AlexandriaSalman Hameedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04327330113822656571noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-28681980434606617842009-12-03T14:02:07.937-05:002009-12-03T14:02:07.937-05:00Hi,
No, you misunderstood what I said. I didn'...Hi,<br />No, you misunderstood what I said. I didn't say that he is advocating his anti-evolutionary agenda on TRT. He is however acting as a political advisor to TRT and making political programs for TRT. that would be perfectly ok for me if there was a balance, however that is not the case.<br />These political programs are like, here is Mr.Akyol and couple other people who are like bros with<br />prime minister Erdogan, and let's ridiculize and bash the other camp. I find this absolutely wrong.<br />They always pick similarly minded people who dare not criticize some acts of the government especially<br />if you say they try to islamicize the country (well if you do that, you are classified as coup-lover, enemy of people, fashist, and all that...). We are sliding towards an autocratic environment I think more and more.<br />TRT has become incredibly politicized during the current government (well it always was but I think not to that degree). This is a fact. Because of the mentality of the people managing in TRT now (hence this video in words of Adnan Hoca), people and only people like Mr. Akyol can become advisors to TRT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-89351837928494595202009-12-03T00:00:53.048-05:002009-12-03T00:00:53.048-05:00Hi,
Thanks for the clip. But wait a minute: Musta...Hi,<br /><br />Thanks for the clip. But wait a minute: Mustafa Akyol is coming out to say that evolution is wrong on TRT? I thought he was <a href="http://sciencereligionnews.blogspot.com/2009/06/from-mustafa-akyol-on-evolution-and-id.html" rel="nofollow">mostly fine with evolution</a>. Has he changed his position again?Salman Hameedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04327330113822656571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-90042538185662761772009-12-02T13:16:44.148-05:002009-12-02T13:16:44.148-05:00Hi,
I am an avid follower of your blog. This is th...Hi,<br />I am an avid follower of your blog. This is the latest scandal from turkish state TV, TRT(Turkish Radio TV). Well<br />not surprising at all I guess.<br />It is about a fish that "hasn't changed for 400 million years" and the title reads "The fish who discredited Darwin", <br />in other words pure creationism in Adnan Hodja rethoric. The text is laughable as well as the mimics of the speaker.<br />I remind you that this is TRT, the nationally broadcast TV station in Turkey.<br /><br />http://www.beyazpencere.com/Video/DARWIN-I-BITIREN-BALIK-18003.aspx<br /><br />It is amazing to see the degree with which the islamists have taken over the key state institutions. What is very surprising is <br />how ultra liberals are closing their eyes and mocking people who are worried to be "elitists against the will<br />of pious people"! This is the level of discussion we are having, criticize anything, say your worries and you are a coup-lover<br />antidemocrat, fashist! I am really worried. By the way, it is not surprising that TRT has been broadcasting these given<br />that Mr. Mustafa Akyol has started making programs for TRT. After all the damage he has done with ID stuff, it is easy now for him<br />to say things like ohh this is wrong on state TV, come on!<br />Regards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-89152252111141495352009-11-29T13:09:02.604-05:002009-11-29T13:09:02.604-05:00Salman, thanks for posting the link to the debate ...Salman, thanks for posting the link to the debate (and the pictures). I just finished listening as I started typing. <br /><br />It was not really "debate", more the airing of ideas (which is fine). But one of your co-panelists (I forget who, I'm sorry) had it right when they pointed out that when they polled students on what evolution is, 99 percent said "(a) we are descended from monkeys, and (b) giraffes used to have short necks". The problem really comes down to what their education level is and what information they are exposed to.<br /><br />I think that the "evolution" debate is most fundamentally not about evolution per se, since you can extend arguments to things like Big Bang cosmology, geologic time, and what have you. It's more about what role science itself plays in society and the education of its people. If science (or art, or history, or politics, or religion, or whatever) aren't taught, how can people possibly understand them? And that is just as true for religion and ethics as it is for science education.<br /><br />The interesting question is how can (or, more fundamentally, <i>will</i>) society provide a good <i>general</i> education to its people so that they themselves can integrate all of the diversity of human thought into something coherent and useful to their lives and to society?<br /><br /><br />(Offtopic, I hope you had a good holiday.)Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18336895080318689408noreply@blogger.com