tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post6146047956467611193..comments2024-03-19T09:06:21.507-04:00Comments on Irtiqa: Center for the Study of Science in Muslim Societies at Hampshire CollegeSalman Hameedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04327330113822656571noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-2066157564685799442010-10-31T21:27:54.963-04:002010-10-31T21:27:54.963-04:00Thanks Mehr - and so glad to see your science-them...Thanks Mehr - and so glad to see your <a href="http://theboxmove.weebly.com/" rel="nofollow">science-themed blog </a> from LUMS!Salman Hameedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04327330113822656571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-18522935450003623142010-10-30T19:38:49.113-04:002010-10-30T19:38:49.113-04:00Congratulations Salman:)
Ali, I do not see how the...Congratulations Salman:)<br />Ali, I do not see how the establishment of such a center undermines religion in any way. An organized study of the Muslim civilization's collective response to Science is all the more important because Science is the defining characteristic of all developed and progressive nations.Religion is important but if practiced in a culture devoid of inquiry, can be grossly misused.Mehrhttp://theboxmove.weebly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-49135990424259974752010-10-30T00:13:15.431-04:002010-10-30T00:13:15.431-04:00Thanks Ahmed.
And yes, of course, the promotion ...Thanks Ahmed. <br /><br />And yes, of course, the promotion of critical thinking! Necessary and must...Salman Hameedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04327330113822656571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-70759403640267286002010-10-29T20:49:43.978-04:002010-10-29T20:49:43.978-04:00I thought I will not respond to this post anymore....I thought I will not respond to this post anymore. But the science -religion debate is too tempting. :) I wish this is a message board and not someone's private blog. :) <br /><br /><br />""Why is science such an important issue?"<br />Perhaps, because our contemporary world is deeply shaped by modern science . . . "<br /><br />Absolutely.<br />But, let us not forget that BEFORE the world was shaped by science, it was also shaped by religion. And the contemporary world's grip on religion is no less. <br /><br />So, if we are thinking of addressing what shapes the world, let us start with chronological order. <br /><br />But Salman, I cannot even imagine you opening a centre on 'Religion in Muslim Societies.' <br /><br />". . . the way we talk about religion, wonder, and awe - as it has also been dramatically altered by discoveries in both cosmology and biology in the past couple of centuries." <br /><br />Discoveries?<br />What discovery are you talking about? <br />Hawking said a few days ago, that we do not need God to explain the universe. But he did not PROVE anything. He just PUSHED the cause to a corner and says LAWS can do it. (By the way, I am yet to read his book. lol) <br />Darwin spoke in similar terms. But he was too scared to completely rule out God and say so even though he meant it in every possible way. <br />Are these the kind of discoveries you are talking about? <br /><br />Science, is such an incomplete and such a changing domain, which ever aspect of it you choose to look at. But SCIENCE is glorified as if it explains EVERYTHING; as if it is ABSOLUTE knowledge. <br /><br />And by opening this centre, Salman, I hope you are not glorifying science more than it should be. :) <br />................<br /><br />@ Ahmed <br /><br />". . . science is also important because it promotes critical and systemic thinking." <br /><br />Ahmed, this is nothing but rhetoric propagated by materialists. Do not buy this sort of arguments. Just THINK for yourself.Alinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-19438416861031286942010-10-29T10:38:18.077-04:002010-10-29T10:38:18.077-04:00Congratulations, Salman!
With respect to the ques...Congratulations, Salman!<br /><br />With respect to the question asked by one of the posters, science is also important because it promotes critical and systemic thinking.Ahmednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-56322682830827713172010-10-28T22:30:24.506-04:002010-10-28T22:30:24.506-04:00Thanks!
Ali:
"Why is science such an import...Thanks!<br /><br />Ali: <br />"Why is science such an important issue?"<br />Perhaps, because our contemporary world is deeply shaped by modern science - the importance of science in everyday life will only grow with time. But it is not only science-driven technology that is relevant here, but also the way we talk about religion, wonder, and awe - as it has also been dramatically altered by discoveries in both cosmology and biology in the past couple of centuries.Salman Hameedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04327330113822656571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-22481785906672689812010-10-28T20:44:35.384-04:002010-10-28T20:44:35.384-04:00I know one story (imagination) of H.G.Wells. About...I know one story (imagination) of H.G.Wells. About 35 years ago when I was doing my first degree course in science, one of my senior colleague told me a story from Time Machine that a day will come when the size of humans would of size of a rat. Now see what has actually happened afterwards. About 2 or 3 years back I saw in a news paper that a giant sized rodent fossil had been found. This was almost to modern elephant size. This confirmed my belief that dinosaurs had not been wiped out. They are still found in smaller and smaller size, yes of course with some different characteristics. I think Gravitation Force is one of the major cause of genetic mutation. Gravitation Force is gradually increasing towards centre and compressing all members of animal kingdom bringing about genetic change with respect to size. A new evolved species or same species with some new characteristics created. I further believe that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. I know one evidence in support of this.Anirudh Kumar Satsanginoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-77236557877871557892010-10-28T10:51:41.090-04:002010-10-28T10:51:41.090-04:00I suppose 9:51 AM is too early for Champagne. Cong...I suppose 9:51 AM is too early for Champagne. Congratulations, anyway!Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02733799054106197853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-51060061554225176632010-10-28T05:44:36.090-04:002010-10-28T05:44:36.090-04:00I congratulate Professor Salman Hameed for establi...I congratulate Professor Salman Hameed for establishing a center for academic research and scholarship related to science in Muslim societies, at Hampshire College. <br /><br />I don’t even know why something like ‘Science in Muslim Societies’ should have a new centre. Why not Economics in Muslim Societies or Business in Muslim Societies, etc? Are there such organisations as well? Never heard of any. Why is science such an important issue? Because everyone wants to teach Darwinism? <br /><br />I hope this centre will focus not on validating Darwinism with rhetoric like ‘Darwinian evolution is a fact’ but only in showing evidence that actually shows how evolution occurs. <br /><br />I also hope Professor Hameed will be more sympathetic to those who do not believe in Darwin’s theory the way it is propounded by most evolutionists. So far, i have failed to see such a vew point on this blog.Alinoreply@blogger.com