tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post7833219174719524952..comments2024-03-19T09:06:21.507-04:00Comments on Irtiqa: Students expelled in Pakistan because of their religionSalman Hameedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04327330113822656571noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-9262179229788962892009-10-09T17:34:20.598-04:002009-10-09T17:34:20.598-04:00i dunno wht these students were doing and i cant c...i dunno wht these students were doing and i cant comment on this incident either because i dont know the details...<br /><br />But one thing is clear that Ahmadis/Qadiyanis are not Muslims.....They donot belive in the finality of Prophet Muhammad(SAW) prophethood.....They have been declared a non muslim minority....<br /><br />So plz dont get confused by calling them muslimsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-91165568724649355312008-06-11T23:42:00.000-04:002008-06-11T23:42:00.000-04:00Fascinating.The psychology of persecution has alwa...Fascinating.<BR/><BR/>The psychology of persecution has always been fascinating to me. Is it stem from truly theological issues, or is theology just a rationalization for clerics defending their religious monopoly by stifling dissent?<BR/><BR/>I tend to lean toward the second, and here's why: this nonsense happens in science and politics, too -- which are ostensibly secular concerns. It even happens when the established cool kids gossip and badmouth the new kid in school.<BR/><BR/>Seems to me this is less about religion than the clerics' cynical use of religious language to defend their secular power and authority. <BR/><BR/>It's not that these morons are too religious. It's that they're not religious enough to actually understand what their Prophet taught.<BR/><BR/>FWIW, anyway.ungtsshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14408476168472971648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-29824621404674060572008-06-10T23:42:00.000-04:002008-06-10T23:42:00.000-04:00Uphold Medical Education for All in Pakistan, Desp...Uphold Medical Education for All in Pakistan, Despite Cries from Clerics<BR/><BR/>Re ‘Students expelled in Pakistan because of their religion,’ I am writing to protest the expulsion last week of 23 medical students from Pakistan’s Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad, only because they belonged to a minority religious group the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. In a letter issued from the College Principal naming the 15 girls and 8 boys, a vague reason cited for expulsion was ‘religious dispute’ and distribution of ‘hate material.’ Nothing could be farther from the facts. Firstly, Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan and worldwide are outstanding, peaceful, law-abiding citizens, who adhere to their motto “Love for All, Hatred for None.” Secondly, religious outcry and hate propaganda were in point of fact waged against the Ahmadi students by a mob of extremist clerics called the ‘Islami Jamiat e Talaba.’ Ironically, in executing the expulsion, the Principal and Government-run medical college complied with demands from the clerics. I remind the honorable Principal that his college is a steward of the future of Pakistani medicine. This duty requires that he should rise above the cackle of the cleric and prevent religious bigotry from overrunning decisions made by the College. By denying innocent medical students the right to completing their education, solely based on their religious affiliation, Pakistan will continue to fall not only in the eyes of the global medical and scientific community but more importantly in the estimation of God. Thus for the sake of God, country, and the universal codes of medical practice that the college claims to uphold, I humbly request that Punjab Medical College rescind its decision to expel the Ahmadi students.<BR/><BR/>Sohail Husain is Assistant Professor of Pediatrics at Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut, USAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-22204520260450102852008-06-10T11:16:00.000-04:002008-06-10T11:16:00.000-04:00.::Ahl-e-Dil::.This blog is dedicated to the proli....::Ahl-e-Dil::.<BR/>This blog is dedicated to the proliferation of the teachings of the Thanwi silsilah through what we have acquired from our beloved Shaikh, Hadrat Sufi Shah Feroz Abdullah Memon Sahab (DB) Khalifa Majaaz-e-Bayt Rumi-e-Saani Arifbillah Hadrat Maulana Shah Hakeem Muhammad Akhtar Sahab (DB).<BR/><BR/>So please visit us at:<BR/>www.ahledil.wordpress.comKhaadim-e-Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01407793398890032995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-7082156912775053222008-06-10T10:29:00.000-04:002008-06-10T10:29:00.000-04:00This was initially done by Bhutto (Benazir's fathe...This was initially done by Bhutto (Benazir's father) in the 70's to appease some religious parties. However, the persecution of Ahmadis and this sort of discrimination really went into high gear under Zia in the 80's.<BR/><BR/><I>I take it you would be filing under the first, rather than "Muslim Applicant" heading?</I><BR/><BR/>No, that will literally be apostasy - signed and delivered...and thats what so clever about the form.Salman Hameedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04327330113822656571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38085367.post-5012238655768120772008-06-10T08:48:00.000-04:002008-06-10T08:48:00.000-04:00I can't believe that the term "Muslim" is defined ...I can't believe that the term "Muslim" is defined within the Pakistani constitution. And that there is then such a firm basis for discrimination against those belonging to a different Muslim sect.<BR/><BR/>It seems pretty pervasive if it's included in such a mundane bureaucratic document as a passport application. I take it you would be filing under the first, rather than "Muslim Applicant" heading?Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02733799054106197853noreply@blogger.com